Re: [K12OSN] Re: [K12OSN]
Max Pakhutkin (lists@stumbledot.org)
Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:18:16 -0500
Thanks to all who responded to my post. As I indicated in the original
message, I am very new to the project or most of the concepts involved, so
my question was influenced by the fact that I really didn't know what
exactly K12LTSP was (I even called it K12OSN in the subject) and how it
differed from anything else available or how it brought its individual
components (the distro and the ltsp package) together.
Now, thanks to your comments, my understanding is this: K12LTSP packages Red
Hat and LTSP together in order to minimize time spent by sys admins on
integrating the two. If there is a mission statement on your site, I must
have missed it.
My immediate goal is to install LTSP on Debian. I'm quite attached to Debian
for reasons that I believe are not entirely appropriate to discuss here,
provided my understanding of the K12LTSP mission is correct and agreed upon.
My bigger goal, however, is to promote the system (Linux, regardless of the
distro used, + LSTP) to the educational institutions (including libraries)
where I live (Columbia, SC) and hopefully build a modest business around it.
In this respect I'm more interested not in the technical aspects of the
system, which I believe I'll be able to grasp fairly easily, but in the
deployment of it. How hard it would be, you think, to convince a head of an
educational institution or regional educational authority that the system
will meet most of the demands of the institution(s)? How well does the
system compare to similar proprietary systems, especially in the way of
applications it would be able to support? I'm pretty sure I'll be able to
convince anyone that the cost of the system ownership will always be lower
than that of proprietary systems, but I don't think that's the only thing
the particular officials would be interested in. Given the fact that most
ISVs are busy writing apps for the Windows platform, how likely am I to find
a Linux alternative to what an educational institution is already using or
is planning to use?
I would be especially interested to hear about the experiences of those who
already maintain the system at their institution in respect to meeting new
requirements that arise either from the buttom (e.g., users demand a
particular app) or descend from the top (e.g., the school district wants all
students to learn a particular application).
Thanks again. I hope this discussion will be interesting to a few people
besides myself.
Max
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Jensen"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Re: [K12OSN]
> Actually, there is only one "official" K12LTSP distribution (currently
2.01
> if I am not mistaken). But you can apply LTSP 3.0 to virtually any
current
> distribution that you wish with the various packages found at
> http://www.ltsp.org
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "more intelligent". The K12LTSP
distribution
> is extremely easy to install and configure "out of the box" to be sure,
but
> with some quick configuration changes to dhcpd.conf you shouldn't have any
> difficulty getting dynamic client addresses/names on any distribution that
> you have set up with the LTSP 3.0 packages. The easiest solution, I would
> imagine, would be to copy the dhcpd.conf file from the K12LTSP distro to
> /etc/dhcpd.conf on whatever system you have applied LTSP 3.0 to...
>
> James
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warwick Chapman"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Re: [K12OSN]
>
>
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but there is more to K12LTSP than just
> > redhat with LTSP integrated?
> >
> > I am very comfortable with Mandrake Linux and have LTSP running
> > on it, but recently went with K12LTSP because it seems to be
> > more intelligent??
> >
> > Like with LTSP I have to add each client to DHCP and lts.conf, but
> > not with K12LTSP?
> >
> > Ciao
> > budgee
> >
> > On 18 Mar 2002, at 11:11, jam@McQuil.com wrote:
> >
> > > Max,
> > >
> > > Just go to http://www.LTSP.org and grab the Debian packages of LTSP.
> > >
> > > Jim McQuillan
> > > jam@Ltsp.org
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Max Pakhutkin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was just wondering how closely k12ltsp is integrated with RedHat
> Linux
> > > > and how hard (if possible) would it be for me to adapt it to Debian?
> I'm
> > > > still in research faze and haven't even downloaded anything yet, but
> > > > would like to have a basic idea on the subject before I get down to
> > > > business. Any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Max Pakhutkin
>
>
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