Re: [K12OSN] I got hacked.........

Max Pakhutkin (lists@stumbledot.org)
Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:30:50 -0500 


> s/advices/advises/ -- and daily is more like it  (/me pee

> Guys and gals, the lack of trimming (two sets of list footers

> errors all day at work, and then come home and see that the
> product of the education infrastructure is unable to express

I am a product of the education infrastructure of a completely different 
country, and my native language is completely different (not even from 
the Germanic or Latin family). I don't think teachers in the 
english-speaking countries should feel a sense of personal failure at 
the sight of my typos. (My spell check doesn't work either).

There seems to be authority (sometimes bordering on superiority) in your 
voice when you speak about this list. However, it's not evident whether 
you are a moderator on this list. If you are not a moderator, I'd say 
you are not being particularly true to the netiquette when you express 
opinions generally reserved to the list maintainers. If you are this 
list's maintatiner/moderator, however, please make the fact clear from 
now on in order for people to recognize your authority.

Max



R P Herrold wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Max Pakhutkin wrote:
>
>>2) if you want to be secure most of the time you have to be really 
>>paranoid about it. Not just 'hmm, let's see what the security journal 
>>advices me to do this month?' but actually constantly thinking about it. 
>>
>
>
>s/advices/advises/ -- and daily is more like it  (/me peeks 
>out from under my tin foil hat.)
>
>
>You are right, of course ... but that is really, really not
>the point.  Reading that post and indeed this thread, either
>live or in the archive, is a nice clear communication that
>Open Source is too scary and too resource intensive for mere
>mortals (you know, the ones with lives, like teachers,
>parents, and Scoutmasters) to consider -- when actually the
>issue lies outside of just Open Source.
>
>---------------------
>
>Guys and gals, the lack of trimming (two sets of list footers
>in the particular post I respond to), and the 'far afield'
>nature of discussing the intricacies of exploited host
>response are disheartening.  Security Focus covers this field 
>authoritatively -- point the questioner at it, and move on.
>
>If there is content relating to K-12 Open Source Now -- and
>its promotion, success and failure stories, and so forth -- it
>is within the scope of this list.
>
>If a post seeks technical advice or support, it really, really
>needs to be elsewhere.  And it is perfectly reasonable to
>respond to such a post with a one liner saying --
>   "This is Off Topic -- see: http://www.whatever.com/link.html "
>_if_ you are _sure_ that is the best link you know.  If you 
>are unsure -- stay silent.
>
>Spelling, punctuation, and composition count too -- our target
>audience includes the very people who have to train the next
>generation.  Imagine how disheartening it is to have to read
>errors all day at work, and then come home and see that the
>product of the education infrastructure is unable to express
>concepts well.
>
>This is in self-defense for the list -- it has degenerated,
>and become been too geeky, and too technical.  It is going to
>scare off the non-technical folks.
>
>Please, please review and consider simple 'Netiquette' 
>    http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html
>before posting.
>
>-- Russ Herrold
>
>
>
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