Re: [K12OSN] OT: Is there a need for LTSP/K12OS consultants to help schools and non-profits

pedro noticioso (cucnews@yahoo.com)
Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:31:32 -0800 (PST) 

Free services to school is so valuable is because you
are investing in the future, the more linux confident
people in the future, more corporations will find out
about it so more corporate money for your market
share, yanked out of microsofts monopoly 8)

so, if you are on the corporate IT services market,
you are getting a lot more from schools than you will
ever give them 8)

a brighter future for yourself!

btw, I will open a cyber cafe a block from a mexican
public junior high school, and certainly plan to
introduce myself to the principal in hopes to make
sure kids will learn the linux computers at school,
the same as they will use at my cyber cafe, I NEED
that because if kids cant figure out my system, they
will not pay for my services, so I practically depend
on that 8)

And of course, thats how you make a name in the
industry, just make a nice brocuhre and visit
corporations, give free analisys of their current
system (any tire shop will give you a free checkup),
and offer ways to SAVE money, never use the INVEST
word, most companies are sick of salespeople using
that and other similar words and sales pitches to
their missguidint advantage, LTSP only needs a real
time demo to speak for itself, once clients are
excited, add up the price$$$ 8)


--- Steve Wright  wrote:
> Rob Becker wrote:
> 
> >I am considering going into business as an open
> source consultant for
> >schools and non-profits.  The focus of my
> consulting will be LTSP
> >installation and maintenance.
> >
> 
> I had hoped to do this a while back, but for the
> moment, it is not 
> viable here.  This may be different in your area,
> however.
> 
> It is a different situation for businesses, who are
> poised to take Linux 
> on as a *server*.  However, K12LTSP, or any LTSP
> based install provides 
> the marvellous party-trick of ad-hoc non-invasively
> booting any machine 
> whatsoever into Linux.  Businesses can now /choose/
> which desktop they 
> would like, and evaluate Linux on a non-committal
> basis.  This is very 
> comfortable for businesses and is going very well.
> 
> I suspect the situation would no different for
> Schools, except that the 
> client numbers are much larger, and therefore the
> hardware for a 
> webserver/fileserver is several orders of magnitude
> different than for a 
> Terminal Server, with a Server capable of 50-90
> Linux Thin-Clients being 
> nearly enterprise-scale.
> 
> This being the case, they would be able to /test/ a
> Linux Terminal 
> Server, but not implement it using their current
> hardware.
> 
> >  I may also look into samba, apache, php
> >and mysql on linux servers for schools that may
> want windows domains and
> >web servers without the windows license costs and
> hassles.  
> >
> 
> not hard at all, and I see a bit of this happening
> here.  wrt an 
> /income/ being made out if it - locally, for me, it
> wouldn't work since 
> ; it has already been done, the admin work is
> minimal, upgrade potential 
> is low, and there is not the numbers anyway.
> 
> >What kind of rate can this market potentially
> sustain (in other words,
> >what would you pay per hour or are you making per
> hour for help setting
> >up and maintaining a K12OS lab?)
> >
> 
> Schools ?  I feel sick charging Schools for
> anything. The admin 
> sometimes buys me a sandwich and a soda, which is
> nice.  8-)
> 
> Businesses are a different situation  ooo yeh.  For
> unix services I 
> would start at double (at the very least) compared
> to win-stuff.  For a 
> complete Server custom install (not the hardware),
> including 1 month 
> burn-in 24hour observation, plus training,
> specialised apps (no 
> programming, just rpm -i everything) you should be
> naming top dollar.  I 
> won't use numbers on this list, but imagine what you
> /might/ get, and 
> double it.  Don't flinch. for more than 20 users,
> think "$corporate"  ;-)
> 
> 
> hth,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
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