Re: [K12OSN] Kids working on documents at home and at school

Petre Scheie (petre@maltzen.net)
Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:34:34 -0500 

Assuming most kids have Windows at home, check out FileZilla 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/) if you want to use SSH for 
transferring files. It's a Windows (only, sadly) ftp client that can do SCP 
over SSH.  It's all graphical, drag-n-drop, easy to setup, and it's GPL.

Petre

Terrell Prude', Jr. wrote:
> Hmmm...well, I do exactly the reverse.  We're a Windows shop at work, 
> but I use GNU/Linux at home (several distros, including Yellow Dog Linux 
> on a Mac).  I also have Red Hat Linux 8 at work which is my daily 
> workstation.  Here's how I do it:
> 
> 1.)  Set up a server ath the school system with a nice, big disk.  Have 
> it running the latest OpenSSH (currently v3.6.1) and accessible from the 
> Internet, presumably through a firewall.
> 2.)  Set up home directories for these kids on this server.
> 3.)  Install the SSH Secure Shell client from SSH Communications 
> Security (http://www.ssh.com) on the Windows boxen.  It's incredibly 
> easy to use and free (as in beer) for educational use.  No, it's not 
> Free Software (as in speech), but they're running Windows anyway, and 
> that particular client works really well.
> 4.)  Use this SSH Secure Shell client to send files from home to this 
> OpenSSH server at school.  When I get to work, it's sitting there ready 
> for me to access from anywhere in the school district via NFS, Samba, or 
> whatever other mechanism you use to export home directories.  That, BTW, 
> is why I presumed a firewall, above.
> 
> This way completely avoids the floppy disk issue and is both quite handy 
> and secure.
> 
> Why I suggest this:  I've used mtools for years before I got rid of 
> Windows in my house.  The FAT file system doesn't have the concept of 
> permissions, and mtools doesn't need to be suid root.  The only thing I 
> can think of is that the floppies are going bad, since you mention that 
> it works for the first time or two.
> 
> --TP
> 
> 
> Rita Gibson wrote:
> 
>> I am reposting this question for the technology teacher at our school. Do
>> any of your students have problems when carrying documents back and forth
>> from school to home, and home to school?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Rita Gibson and Elizabeth Spruill
>>
>> Hi...I am the media technology librarian at the Rocky Mountain School of
>> Expeditionary Learning in Denver...We started running K12LTSP this 
>> year, and
>> so far it seems to be working pretty well for us.  Currently I am having
>> problems with floppy drives and mtools.  Most of our students are using
>> Windows at home, and when they try to save files being careful to save in
>> Microsoft formats, things often work fine.  They'll take the disk 
>> home, and
>> for many of them they are able to open it fine at home and then bring it
>> back.
>> They put the disk back in a terminal, save their files to the server 
>> and it
>> may or may not work.  Typically, they can exchange things once or 
>> twice, and
>> after that, Mtools gives them a message that a:permission is denied, and
>> a:cannot initialize.  I have considered having kids use e-mail to 
>> transport
>> files back and forth, and it seems as though this may be our most likely
>> solution for now, but I am wondering how to fix this.  Given that for 
>> most
>> kids it works fine the first time or two, I don't know what the 
>> problem is.
>> I
>> thought for a while that it was just substandard floppy disks, and 
>> have been
>> using scandisk to try and fix errors on disks, but that doesn't always 
>> seem
>> to
>> help.  Thanks for your help.  I have been watching the listserve all 
>> year,
>> but
>> have so far been quiet.
>> Thanks...
>> Elizabeth Spruill
>>
>>
>>
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